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  • Genesis
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    ok Doff
    One here is REV1.
    I will check the other one this evening at home but it was ordered a month ago. edit: yes it's a REV2
    but both have the problem.
    Last edited by Genesis; 17th March 2015, 07:55 PM.

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  • Doff
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    It should be written on the SOMO-II PCB, backside. "Rev 1" or "Rev 2", etc.

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  • Genesis
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    Hello Doff. Where can I find this info?
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  • Doff
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    Hi Genesis,

    What SOMO-II hardware revision do you have?


    Regards.

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  • Genesis
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    any ideas?

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  • Genesis
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    listen carefully the attached file.
    http://www.harpelaser.com/files/ardu...ssue/Vocal.mp3

    it was a recording made with my samsung phone.
    the module is playing two files in continuous mode.
    the "acces autorisé" words and an fx door sound used as "separator".
    they are played 8 times
    as you can ear the module doesn't play exactly the same sound.
    the first loop is not good
    the second one is near correct
    the third not
    the fourth near correct
    the loop 5 is not good
    and the 3 lasts are good
    the 7 is perfect.
    strange thing uuuh?
    Last edited by Genesis; 8th March 2015, 04:25 AM.

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  • Genesis
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    And here is a comparison to fit with the soundforge timeline (file is 1.062s long) between the two blue cursors (dt=1.060s)
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    the first 50ms of the wave are compressed! it's the little glitch. so the volume for this part is low as described for this issue.

    The voice say near the same word in french as the one above.
    "activé" for the one above and "acces" for this one.

    The file was duplicated in wav and mp3, normalized, mono, stereo with exactly same results.
    note: 24bits depht wave file doesn't work
    Last edited by Genesis; 7th March 2015, 11:38 PM.

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  • Genesis
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    here is another test with only one file on the sdcard.
    iit's another one saying "acces autorisé".
    and here is the comparison:
    the original one from soundforge
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    and the measured signal
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  • Genesis
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    and here the comparison between the original wave opened under soundforge and the measured envelope: Click image for larger version

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    As you can see something is missing. I don't know why but the wave file is troncated. If that can help to find why.
    greetings
    Franck
    Last edited by Genesis; 7th March 2015, 09:49 PM.

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  • Genesis
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    Thanks Doff for your test.The volume go down when the french word "activé" is played. we can heard more "acTIVE" where "ac" is missing
    I've taken the time this morning to make measures.

    About my system the SDcard contain near 1395 files in 31 directories and never over 255 files in each (perhaps it makes the difference but I can test with only one file).
    now here is the original wave file opened under soundforge. to get an idea of the envelope
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    and here is what I've measured at the output in parallel of the speaker with my scope (differential measure beetwin channel 1 and channel 2 ac coupled + math operation to avoid audio amplifier short circuit to ground)
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    and here is a zoom of the last part where I found the volume very low:
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    Last edited by Genesis; 7th March 2015, 10:06 PM.

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  • Doff
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    Hi Genesis,

    I tested the mp3 file the link of which you posted above. I didn't notice anything wrong with the playback volume. That was my perception at least. My setup was far simpler however.

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    I used a small 8-ohm speaker. The serial commands were sent thru a 4D USB programming cable. See attached photo.

    Regards.

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  • Genesis
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    If I have free time this weekend I will try more tests and measure the output with a scope

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  • James_4DSystems
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    hmm, maybe try lowering the gain/volume of the file and compensating by increasing the volume of the module?

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  • Genesis
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    Thank you for the file James.
    I have two modules and I have tried on both of them with same results unfortunately.
    the strange thing is that it's not sonstant. not on each file. like random.
    you know it's like an automatic gain control decreasing the gain when it detect a peak. with compression of the signal
    Last edited by Genesis; 5th March 2015, 05:50 AM.

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  • James_4DSystems
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    Hi Genesis

    Here is a bit of a writeup that was done by one of our engineers a little while ago.
    Unfortunately this was never included in the Datasheet - I will get that organised.

    Please have a read, hopefully it contains useful information for you.

    I will arrange a test using the file you sent also.
    How many SOMO-II's do you have? Is it just the one which you are having problems with?
    I am still not 100% sure of what the problem is. Is it just this file is lower/higher volume than other files when played on the SOMO-II, or is the volume changing during playback of this one song.
    Please advise

    Regards
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